Comments on: Mail Bag | The Numbers http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/01/24/mail-bag-the-numbers/ Get Your Strategy On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:01:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Kevin http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/01/24/mail-bag-the-numbers/#comment-880 Kevin Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:38:31 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=412#comment-880 Tony, thanks for responding -- we admire Granger in a huge way -- and completely agree that everyone should serve in areas where they are best SHAPED. I think we're trying to figure out how to reconcile the "It's all about the weekend" concept, which we tend to agree with - with some of our staff pastors who do not feel as strongly that it's 'all about the weekend,' especially where their areas are concerned. They feel it would be more beneficial to the areas God has called them to serve and ultimately more 'growing' to our church if they did their own occasional retreats with their areas (for instance, youth) off campus rather than sit in a weekend service with less to do. We could have them in other rooms doing other ministry, but again, most of us DO believe in the 'It's all about the weekend' concept and most of the leaders the ministries eventually get to serve in their areas come from the big pool of the weekend service. We're in some transition here, as you can tell - and it's all very exciting - but we're trying to navigate it all in the best way. Tony, thanks for responding — we admire Granger in a huge way — and completely agree that everyone should serve in areas where they are best SHAPED. I think we’re trying to figure out how to reconcile the “It’s all about the weekend” concept, which we tend to agree with - with some of our staff pastors who do not feel as strongly that it’s ‘all about the weekend,’ especially where their areas are concerned. They feel it would be more beneficial to the areas God has called them to serve and ultimately more ‘growing’ to our church if they did their own occasional retreats with their areas (for instance, youth) off campus rather than sit in a weekend service with less to do. We could have them in other rooms doing other ministry, but again, most of us DO believe in the ‘It’s all about the weekend’ concept and most of the leaders the ministries eventually get to serve in their areas come from the big pool of the weekend service.

We’re in some transition here, as you can tell - and it’s all very exciting - but we’re trying to navigate it all in the best way.

]]> By: Tony Morgan http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/01/24/mail-bag-the-numbers/#comment-879 Tony Morgan Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:39:27 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=412#comment-879 Kevin, if you continue to try to include all your pastors in your weekend service, you'll ultimately limiting the growth of your church. At Granger, we have a number of pastors (me included) that rarely have any role in the weekend services. Instead we're serving in roles are better fit for our SHAPE (spiritual gifts, heart, abilities, personality, experience). By modeling that at the pastoral level, we're also encouraging other people to determine their SHAPE and find a ministry that best fits who God has created them to be. tony Kevin, if you continue to try to include all your pastors in your weekend service, you’ll ultimately limiting the growth of your church. At Granger, we have a number of pastors (me included) that rarely have any role in the weekend services. Instead we’re serving in roles are better fit for our SHAPE (spiritual gifts, heart, abilities, personality, experience). By modeling that at the pastoral level, we’re also encouraging other people to determine their SHAPE and find a ministry that best fits who God has created them to be.

tony

]]> By: Joshua Gregory http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/01/24/mail-bag-the-numbers/#comment-878 Joshua Gregory Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:29:44 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=412#comment-878 I think it's great that Granger is so committed to excellence that you are not sacrificing the quality of the service just to "fit more people in the doors." Like you said, you could seat more, but the children's ministry, parking, and media aren't ready to handle it. If you put more people in, it would reduce the quality of the service for everyone. People sitting where they can't see the speaker or the screens, and children packed into classrooms like sardines. These are issues that make the church feel "too big," and could convince people to go elsewhere. I think it’s great that Granger is so committed to excellence that you are not sacrificing the quality of the service just to “fit more people in the doors.” Like you said, you could seat more, but the children’s ministry, parking, and media aren’t ready to handle it. If you put more people in, it would reduce the quality of the service for everyone. People sitting where they can’t see the speaker or the screens, and children packed into classrooms like sardines. These are issues that make the church feel “too big,” and could convince people to go elsewhere.

]]> By: James 'Smiler' Farrer http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/01/24/mail-bag-the-numbers/#comment-877 James 'Smiler' Farrer Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:42:50 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=412#comment-877 Plant out 4-5 churches and ask them to lead them :) Plant out 4-5 churches and ask them to lead them :)

]]> By: Kevin http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/01/24/mail-bag-the-numbers/#comment-876 Kevin Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:07:05 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=412#comment-876 We have a church of about 2,000 and things are going well - progressive, relevant, on target worship, etc... but we wonder what do with all of our pastors so they feel more a part of what we're doing on the weekends. There are too many of them for us to involve them in a service and we want them to feel that they're part of it. Any suggestions?? We have a church of about 2,000 and things are going well - progressive, relevant, on target worship, etc… but we wonder what do with all of our pastors so they feel more a part of what we’re doing on the weekends. There are too many of them for us to involve them in a service and we want them to feel that they’re part of it. Any suggestions??

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