Comments on: ICC 2006 Session Downloads Now Available http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/09/29/icc-2006-session-downloads-now-available/ Get Your Strategy On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:14:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Brenton Balvin http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/09/29/icc-2006-session-downloads-now-available/#comment-1819 Brenton Balvin Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:20:43 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=762#comment-1819 That is an excellent response and a philosophy of ministry that I can support. Thank you for taking the time to explain what Granger is doing and why. I appreciate it. That is an excellent response and a philosophy of ministry that I can support. Thank you for taking the time to explain what Granger is doing and why. I appreciate it.

]]> By: tony morgan http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/09/29/icc-2006-session-downloads-now-available/#comment-1818 tony morgan Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:07:02 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=762#comment-1818 Brenton, you've identified a difference in ministry philosophy between these churches and Granger. At Granger, we've decided that 100% of our offerings will be used for our missions efforts to reach our region for Jesus. What we don't spend in local missions efforts here, we invest in our global missions efforts in India and Mexico. We've made a decision that WiredChurches.com, our ministry to other church leaders, will be self-supporting. In other words, we don't take a dime from our general offerings to support what we do with WiredChurches.com. Because of that decision, it means we have to fund all of our events, resource development, communications, technology and staffing through event registrations and product sales. By the way, I'm not saying I disagree with Piper and Driscoll's decisions to use tithes and offerings to fund this part of their ministry. I'm just saying it's different than how we've decided to steward our financial resources. We've decided 100% of our tithes and offerings should be invested in our local and global missions efforts in focused regions. That said, WiredChurches.com still wants to do what we can to provide quality resources that are helpful for church leaders to grow their churches. And, though we need to sell some of those resources to fund this part of our ministry, we continue to offer quite a few resources for free. Recently, I listed some of those resources. Here it is again: > Free video streaming of the previous week's services; > Free podcasts of weekend messages and message notes; > Free small group discussion guides; > Free weekly newsletters with creative ideas from the Granger team; > Free Simply Strategic Show podcasts talking about ministry strategy; > Free blogs from various ministry leaders including our executive pastor, pastor of connections, communication director and student ministry team; and > Free access to sample videos and music on the coolest video player around. Just wanted you to understand our ministry philosophy. If we stopped charging for resources, we'd probably have to stop providing resources all together. For us, equipping other church leaders is a secondary part of our ministry vision. Our primary mission is reaching the unchurched for Jesus in the South Bend, IN region and now in specific communities in India and Mexico. Great question, though. Hopefully this explanation helps. For us, it's an Acts 1:8 drum that we need to keep beating. tony Brenton, you’ve identified a difference in ministry philosophy between these churches and Granger. At Granger, we’ve decided that 100% of our offerings will be used for our missions efforts to reach our region for Jesus. What we don’t spend in local missions efforts here, we invest in our global missions efforts in India and Mexico. We’ve made a decision that WiredChurches.com, our ministry to other church leaders, will be self-supporting. In other words, we don’t take a dime from our general offerings to support what we do with WiredChurches.com.

Because of that decision, it means we have to fund all of our events, resource development, communications, technology and staffing through event registrations and product sales.

By the way, I’m not saying I disagree with Piper and Driscoll’s decisions to use tithes and offerings to fund this part of their ministry. I’m just saying it’s different than how we’ve decided to steward our financial resources. We’ve decided 100% of our tithes and offerings should be invested in our local and global missions efforts in focused regions.

That said, WiredChurches.com still wants to do what we can to provide quality resources that are helpful for church leaders to grow their churches. And, though we need to sell some of those resources to fund this part of our ministry, we continue to offer quite a few resources for free. Recently, I listed some of those resources. Here it is again:

> Free video streaming of the previous week’s services;

> Free podcasts of weekend messages and message notes;

> Free small group discussion guides;

> Free weekly newsletters with creative ideas from the Granger team;

> Free Simply Strategic Show podcasts talking about ministry strategy;

> Free blogs from various ministry leaders including our executive pastor, pastor of connections, communication director and student ministry team; and

> Free access to sample videos and music on the coolest video player around.

Just wanted you to understand our ministry philosophy. If we stopped charging for resources, we’d probably have to stop providing resources all together. For us, equipping other church leaders is a secondary part of our ministry vision. Our primary mission is reaching the unchurched for Jesus in the South Bend, IN region and now in specific communities in India and Mexico.

Great question, though. Hopefully this explanation helps. For us, it’s an Acts 1:8 drum that we need to keep beating.

tony

]]> By: Brenton Balvin http://tonymorganlive.com/2006/09/29/icc-2006-session-downloads-now-available/#comment-1817 Brenton Balvin Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:49:18 +0000 http://tonymorgan.updatable.cc/?p=762#comment-1817 Tony, why are you guys charging for this stuff? I can't believe it is to cover costs of production. John Piper and Mark Driscoll both have chosen to 'give away' material for the sake of the kingdom. In fact, their churches know that part of the offering they give goes to blessing the greater church. Granger could really be innovative by giving away cds and mp3's instead of charging people for them. This is the Gen. 12 drum I will keep on beating. Keep it up man! Tony, why are you guys charging for this stuff? I can’t believe it is to cover costs of production.

John Piper and Mark Driscoll both have chosen to ‘give away’ material for the sake of the kingdom. In fact, their churches know that part of the offering they give goes to blessing the greater church.

Granger could really be innovative by giving away cds and mp3’s instead of charging people for them.

This is the Gen. 12 drum I will keep on beating. Keep it up man!

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