Comments on: Stanley Writes Foreword for Killing Cockroaches

By: Roy

Roy — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:36:24 +0000

Ron – Good spirit. Not sure what your OG comment was but Tony’s response is CLASSIC Tony Morgan…………

By: lanny donoho

lanny donoho — Thu, 29 May 2008 05:00:52 +0000

Well, as you know i was messing with you, but hey…I’m starting to feel predestined to do this. So, heck, tell me where i can read a good synopsis of your book, which by the way, i like the title…
and i will check it out and send you something. Who knows, it could be fun, or maybe i will just say the opposite of everything Andy said in the forward and see if we can confuse people.
Anyway,just for kicks, if you let me read some of you book, if its not too late, then i will send you something and wont be offended if it doesn’t make it past the publisher. But, i do have a unique understanding of the hebrew understanding of the word cockroach.
lanny

By: tony

tony — Wed, 28 May 2008 03:16:52 +0000

lanny, you should do it. draft it, and i’ll forward your backword to my publisher.

tony

By: tom roepke

tom roepke — Wed, 28 May 2008 02:14:48 +0000

i think lanny’s idea is brillant…you’d set a new marketing trend maybe even…and we know lanny would close it up right for you. also enjoyed hangning with you at the pd summit.

By: matt mcgill

matt mcgill — Tue, 27 May 2008 00:16:46 +0000

congrats! so cool!!

By: Ron

Ron — Mon, 26 May 2008 18:17:00 +0000

Tony,

Attacking a ministry and questioning methods are two different things. You need to define ‘attack’ a little more carefully. I suggested dialog. What was the tone of my first comment? Did I not mention good intentions of those who engage in the questioned methodology? You response seemed to be one of mockery. More specifically, you mocked me over my legitimate concerns and, I know that was not your intent, you appear to mock the sovereignty of God.

In light of my original comment and further exploring the tone of your response, where in the world did that rant on predestination come from? I posed a serious, thoughtful comment on the church in hope of a serious, thoughtful dialog. Also, the quote I responded to was not aimed at Stanley’s church, but at an overarching methodology, and the quote I responded to will appear in YOUR book; it is not a methodology limited to Stanley’s church. I see no light to be gained in further dialog, only heat. Sorry it turned out that way. Could have been edifying and interesting.

Also and in retrospect, I humbly apologize for the comment on your courage. I was completely and inexcusably out of line. I dishonored my Saviour with that attitude. Whatever our differences may be, whatever your opinion of me may be, know that I now know I was in sin in that remark and I repent. Please forgive me.

Ron

By: tony

tony — Mon, 26 May 2008 17:21:15 +0000

Ron, so you’re suggesting it’s entirely acceptable for you to use my blog to insinuate that Andy Stanley’s ministry is unbiblical, but when I choose to remove comments like that I’m the one that’s un-Christlike?

I also think it’s kind of humorous that you suggest I lack courage. I’m not the one attacking another guy’s ministry by using a random blog rather than addressing him directly. It only took me about five seconds to find the contact form for North Point on their website. I recommend you start there next time.

tony

By: Ron

Ron — Mon, 26 May 2008 15:11:58 +0000

Actually Tony, no worries because you did not mess up my holiday. What your response did was grieve me due to it’s arrogance and un-Christlike nature. I challenge you to leave the comment and your response if you have the courage to do so. I suspect that you will not. Also, I honestly do not understand your interjection of your rant on predestination, though. How do you relate that to my comment?

By: tony

tony — Mon, 26 May 2008 13:00:31 +0000

Ron,

You asked me what I thought of your comment. I decided to delete it.

Now, you’ll have to figure out if that was my choice to delete the comment. Did I delete it out of my own free will? If so, now you know why churches like North Point and NewSpring strategically try to reach the unchurched through our weekend services.

Or, maybe God pre-destined me to delete your comment. If so, I had no choice in the matter. And, in that instance, your argument isn’t with me, it’s with God. It keeps your theology clean, but it probably leaves you questioning why a sovereign God would allow that to happen.

Sorry for messing up your holiday. :-)

tony

By: lanny donoho

lanny donoho — Mon, 26 May 2008 05:14:09 +0000

Hi Tony
I get the whole thing about having Andy do your forward….but hey…have you considered having a backward at the end. Cuz i would do that for you.
lanny donoho