Comments on: 7 Reasons Why the Church Needs Artists http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/ Get Your Strategy On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 13:56:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: The Journey Production » » Artists and the Church http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-6391 The Journey Production » » Artists and the Church Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:48:58 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-6391 [...] to Tony Morgan’s blog post about the need for artists in the Church.  He quotes Aubrey Spears, the Teaching Pastor at [...] [...] to Tony Morgan’s blog post about the need for artists in the Church.  He quotes Aubrey Spears, the Teaching Pastor at [...]

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]]> By: Sharolyn http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5820 Sharolyn Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:26:09 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5820 This discussion excites me, I want to know God more fully and I want to create! This discussion excites me, I want to know God more fully and I want to create!

]]> By: Tim Bednar http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5813 Tim Bednar Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:56:35 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5813 One of the main purposes of modern and post-modern art -- to challenge our perception of the world by making us uncomfortable -- it is my experience that the church really doesn't like this aspect of art and why artist are often not embraced. Mostly because you might not like what they do... One of the main purposes of modern and post-modern art — to challenge our perception of the world by making us uncomfortable — it is my experience that the church really doesn’t like this aspect of art and why artist are often not embraced. Mostly because you might not like what they do…

]]> By: JW http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5808 JW Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:36:15 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5808 The Church needs Artists. The Church has a lot of posers. Artists create. Posers copy and replicate. The Church by in large supports and gets excited about the posers covering the safe and certain. That is the "Art" the Church supports The Church needs Artists.

The Church has a lot of posers.

Artists create.

Posers copy and replicate.

The Church by in large supports and gets excited about the posers covering the safe and certain.

That is the “Art” the Church supports

]]> By: rodge http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5805 rodge Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:24:42 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5805 Josh, I hear you. i came from a place where there was lots of music and a fair amount of creative pursuit generally. I'm now at a smaller church but there's much more missional output. That stuff is powerful in terms of people understanding who God is and what Christs love is by the way we clothe feed etc. I make my living through art & music and I go mental without it. But I see that it is further down the chain. For instance, i'd argue that science is very under represented in church culture, but surely it has a way of revealing things about our maker that art just merely alludes to. But very few people cheer for some scientific ministry in church circles. I should have said.... The Gospel is sufficent - but sitting on our butts is not sufficient. The gospel is an action, and we also must act - that's how i see it anyway. Josh, I hear you. i came from a place where there was lots of music and a fair amount of creative pursuit generally. I’m now at a smaller church but there’s much more missional output. That stuff is powerful in terms of people understanding who God is and what Christs love is by the way we clothe feed etc.

I make my living through art & music and I go mental without it. But I see that it is further down the chain. For instance, i’d argue that science is very under represented in church culture, but surely it has a way of revealing things about our maker that art just merely alludes to. But very few people cheer for some scientific ministry in church circles.

I should have said…. The Gospel is sufficent - but sitting on our butts is not sufficient. The gospel is an action, and we also must act - that’s how i see it anyway.

]]> By: Joshua Blankenship http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5789 Joshua Blankenship Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:26:48 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5789 Rodge, I think you're perhaps defining "art" a little too narrowly here. Art exists everywhere, as humans are constantly producing created things. That doesn't have to be in a gallery in NYC; it can just as easily be a functional clay pot in a Peruvian village. Of course the Gospel is sufficient. But by that rationale alone, we'd never do anything. We'd just sit around and let the Gospel be sufficient and never do anything to support it, to remove barriers for people to hear it, to try to frame it in ways that connect with people, etc. Rodge, I think you’re perhaps defining “art” a little too narrowly here. Art exists everywhere, as humans are constantly producing created things. That doesn’t have to be in a gallery in NYC; it can just as easily be a functional clay pot in a Peruvian village.

Of course the Gospel is sufficient. But by that rationale alone, we’d never do anything. We’d just sit around and let the Gospel be sufficient and never do anything to support it, to remove barriers for people to hear it, to try to frame it in ways that connect with people, etc.

]]> By: Keith Tackel http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5788 Keith Tackel Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:33:10 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5788 Great stuff, my wife teaches art at a Christian school and she is always trying to help the kids understand how God and our creativity are so intertwined. Great stuff, my wife teaches art at a Christian school and she is always trying to help the kids understand how God and our creativity are so intertwined.

]]> By: rodge http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5787 rodge Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:51:01 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5787 "Only through art can we know God more fully" - jesus & the holy spirit work in many areas of this world where art does not exist. I'd say the gospel is entirely sufficient with out art. yet we are richer for it when it has room. really, we need art to see the world & God through someone else's eyes. more importantly, we're made in God's image, He is the creator, therefore we should also look to be creative somehow. "some painters transorm the sun into a yellow dot, others transform a yellow dot into the sun" - picasso at the same time the sun never stopped. “Only through art can we know God more fully” - jesus & the holy spirit work in many areas of this world where art does not exist. I’d say the gospel is entirely sufficient with out art.

yet we are richer for it when it has room.

really, we need art to see the world & God through someone else’s eyes.

more importantly, we’re made in God’s image, He is the creator, therefore we should also look to be creative somehow.

“some painters transorm the sun into a yellow dot, others transform a yellow dot into the sun” - picasso

at the same time the sun never stopped.

]]> By: John Darnell http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/06/02/7-reasons-why-the-church-needs-artists/#comment-5775 John Darnell Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:24:16 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=1571#comment-5775 Hey Tony, LOVE this post... It seems sometimes all of the emphasis can be on developing leadership, but so few actually talk about developing artists... I linked to you in one of my posts and it seems to have taken the liberty of posting itself in comments section... My bad... Didn't want to seem to pimp my blog while trying to add to the conversation... Hey Tony,

LOVE this post…

It seems sometimes all of the emphasis can be on developing leadership, but so few actually talk about developing artists…

I linked to you in one of my posts and it seems to have taken the liberty of posting itself in comments section… My bad…

Didn’t want to seem to pimp my blog while trying to add to the conversation…

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