Get Your Strategy On
A few months ago, Scott helped me relaunch TonyMorganLive.com using WordPress and a new design. Turns out his team at Updatable also helps churches use WordPress to manage their websites. I caught up with Scott recently to ask him about it.
TONY: So, is it true that there are churches running their entire website using Wordpress as a Content Management System (CMS)? And, are you impressed that I know the lingo?
SCOTT: Very impressive. (I had to feed him that question.) Regarding churches, here’s one example off the top of my head. While most people who know about Wordpress think of it as a blogging tool, it has the power to scale up to meet the website requirements of whole organizations.
TONY: I’m a tightwad. I also know most churches are trying to do more with less. Is this a good option for them?
SCOTT: Actually, it’s perfect for ministries on a tight budget. There are literally hundreds of free, attractive design themes for Wordpress. Most are easy to implement and none take special technical knowledge. However, if you can’t find a free design theme, there are design themes that are professionally designed, come with on-going support via email or forums, and aren’t expensive. The cheapest ones can be found for $15 or less while most range from $30 to $75. The best places to discover premium themes would be in galleries like this one or this one.
TONY: Are custom designs an option? And what are the other expenses?
SCOTT: You bet. There are many boutique design shops (like mine) and freelancers (like this guy or this guy) who can design a custom Wordpress theme for you. In most cases, even custom Wordpress themes are less expensive than a fully custom, hosted CMS from a larger company.
As far as other expenses, you’ll need to consider hosting. Wordpress can be hosted on your own servers, which means that you only pay what GoDaddy or 1&1 charge. Most simple web hosts are incredibly cheap. If you’re on a shoestring budget and the higher hosting costs of a hosted CMS are too much for you, this is a huge perk.
TONY: But what if the church doesn’t want their site looking like a blog?
SCOTT: The assumption is, since Wordpress is a blogging tool, the only design you can use has to resemble a blog in layout and functionality. While this is the case with most free and premium themes, custom Wordpress applications have much more design freedom. The best way to illustrate the stretching capacity of Wordpress is to send you here and here and let you see it for yourself.
TONY: What about the churches that don’t have web experts on their team? Is it easy to use?
SCOTT: You’re using it aren’t you? (smile.) One of the most difficult obstacles to using a larger CMS is the learning curve. Wordpress, on the other hand, is familiar to most people, has a simple user interface for managing content, and has robust user forums that answer every question under the sun. You’ll seldom run into a situation to which you can’t find the answer with only a few clicks.
TONY: Any final thoughts?
SCOTT: As a disclaimer, Wordpress isn’t the perfect option for everyone. Some churches need increased functionality that just isn’t available currently through Wordpress. But if you’re on a tight budget, need a simple site that you control, and already love Wordpress as much as you and I, then Wordpress as a CMS is a great option for you. If you have questions about how to get started with using Wordpress as the engine that runs your church’s website, you can contact me with any questions you might have.
Thanks for the interview, Scott. And thank you for partnering with me on TonyMorganLive.com.
Tony Morgan is a pastor and the Chief Strategic Officer at NewSpring Church where he develops creative solutions for communications, technology and NewSpring Ministries--the church's ministry that equips other church leaders.
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Dan
July 24th, 2008 at 5:29 am
this was a great interview. we use wordpress. this site led me to check out scotts AWESOME CMS. i recommend wordpress as a great first stop for anyones website.
Jesse
July 24th, 2008 at 11:30 am
I’m having my wordpress theme created by http://dallaspetersdesign.com/ guy is really good and really economical
Vince
July 24th, 2008 at 11:44 am
at Simple Drive we have been setting churches up on Joomla for a few years. Lately we have been pushing more and more churches toward WP. Especially if they aren’t in need of a whole lot of functionality.
Chad Dvoracek
July 24th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Wordpress is great. I just upgraded my blog to Wordpress Mu. This allows for multiple blogs on one site. Mu will give a lot more functional ability to churches. Including multiple blogging pages for different departments, podcasts, staff etc. as well as even being able to create a church pool of bloggers. Church members can come and create their own blog and it stays under the main website. If you want to see it working in a small way you can check out my personal blog under my name. I set up a front page blog and then a secondary blog for a study that people can log it and follow along.
Any church thinking of setting up a site should really look into Mu and think long term about what you would like the site to be. Converting from Wordpress to Mu after the fact took a lot of effort and those not familiar with tweeking wordpress would certainly need to hire out the conversion.
Lee Coate
July 24th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
tony - just two months ago we launched an interactive wordpress blog to replace our Sunday bulletin. We have eliminated our weekly handout and merely drive people to our blog. We still have a “regular” website, but have found it to be stale and very difficult to maintain without a large budget. The advantage of the blog is instant updates, user friendliness (all our admins, pastors, etc. can write their blogs) and 24 hr. access for our peeps at The Crossing. We have saved tremendous amounts of paper and man hours producing a bulletin that people glance at and then discard. So far we are happy with it. Go Wordpress!
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July 25th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Thanks Tony for posting this. I created our church’s site last year using wordpress and it works great. There are some tweaks to do in order for things to show up in the right spot (image instead of blog excerpt), but overall it is a huge advantage. Check it out: http://www.MyElevationChurch.com
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Fred McKinnon
July 26th, 2008 at 11:53 am
Tony,
I’m a bit late chiming in on this as I’ve been out of town, but checkout our church’s site at http://www.sscommunitychurch.com … it’s 100% driven by WordPress, and I don’t think it looks like a “blog” at all. Kudos to our Associate Tech Director, Chris Moncus (chrismoncus.com) for his design/wordpress/coding expertise.
For the Kingdom,
Fred
Chris Moncus
July 26th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Wow, Scott. How’d you hear about SSCC? Thanks for mentioning it BTW. I just wanna know how it came to be “one example off the top of my head”. It’s an honor to be featured here.
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Fred McKinnon
July 26th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Tony … well, it would’ve HELPED if I would’ve actually CLICKED THE LINK in the article to the church site that Scott mentions .. IT’s OUR CHURCH! That’s what I get for reading and commenting via GoogleReader, man!
Chris Moncus is excited, he just IM’d me and showed me the stats on the clickthrus … that’s super cool.
To Scott … thanks for putting sscommunitychurch on the radar.
For the Kingdom,
Fred McKinnon (Worship Dir. St. Simons Community Church)
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Chris Denham
July 31st, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Hey Tony
Thanks for this article - really got me thinking - and as a result I picked up a Wordpress magazine theme and built a new site for my Senior Pastors blog / network website. So easy to do as well thanks to the way wordpress works. I ended up paying a few pounds for an excellent theme at found at http://www.wp-magazine.com which seems to be super popular - but their support has been excellent!
For anyone interested the site I’ve been working on is still partially under construction at http://staging2.davegilpin.com but should be live in the next week at http://www.davegilpin.com
Thanks for helping make a huge difference!
Mark Barnes
August 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 am
Those who are using Wordpress as a CMS for their church (as I am) might like to know about my Sermon Browser plugin which allows churches to simply upload sermons to their Wordpress website, where they can be searched, listened to, and downloaded. Full podcasting support is also included.
Courtney Roes
August 5th, 2008 at 7:54 am
Hey Tony,
We’ve been using Wordpress for several years as our CMS on a site that you may not even recognize as a WordPress site - http://www.LakeForest.org . I just drew up a custom theme which WordPress makes easy. For us back in 2005, it was the easiest way for us to do Podcasting easily. Now that I’m doing missions in Europe, we’re using Wordpress as our CMS on almost all of our new sites. We’re even using WordPressMU (a multiple blog version of Wordpress) to manage our short term teams that come over.
To Mark Barnes, thanks for the Sermn Browser plugin. Looks great - I’ll have to use it in our church website.
HealthGirl
August 14th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
This is a terrific interview! I had NO idea that one could use WordPress for a website, and that churches were doing so. I am involved with a ministry and they sure could use a way to have a website that didn’t cost an arm and a leg, using resources needed elsewhere. I’m going to share this with them.
Bill Robbins
September 20th, 2008 at 12:10 am
I just discovered Wordpress this year and have been quite impressed with using it as a CMS. My family and I are helping a church plant by leading the children’s ministry, so I made a church site out of Brian Gardner’s Revolution theme for the Tuscaloosa Vineyard Church http://www.tuscaloosavineyard.com. I enjoyed the experience so much that I’ve begun making Wordpress themes just for churches. You can find them at http://www.organizedthemes.com.
Thanks for pointing people to WordPress to help with their church CMS needs
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Brandon Cox
October 9th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
I’m giving away a nice wordpress theme for churches at Ministry Theme. Nothing is for sale and I don’t do ads, so this is not spam. Just take and share. Build on it - enjoy it. It’s open source and free, GPL.