Comments on: Other Duties as Assigned http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/ Trying to be strategic. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:57:43 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: H E L L O ? R I G H T O N ! http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6734 H E L L O ? R I G H T O N ! Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:06:11 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6734 [...] to do that is to — well — to do them! It is no secret that we are in a culture of doing other duties, as assigned at NewSpring. It is refreshing to work with people who genuinely do whatever it takes to get the [...] [...] to do that is to — well — to do them! It is no secret that we are in a culture of doing other duties, as assigned at NewSpring. It is refreshing to work with people who genuinely do whatever it takes to get the [...]

]]> By: Laugh. Love. Learn. :: perhaps i thrive on insanity… :: November :: 2008 http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6733 Laugh. Love. Learn. :: perhaps i thrive on insanity… :: November :: 2008 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 02:46:13 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6733 [...] things about working at theVine…you never know what the day may hold! sometimes the “other duties as assigned” are quite unpredictable. i woke up at 4:45 am this morning and couldn’t go back to [...] [...] things about working at theVine…you never know what the day may hold! sometimes the “other duties as assigned” are quite unpredictable. i woke up at 4:45 am this morning and couldn’t go back to [...]

]]> By: H E L L O ? R I G H T O N ! http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6732 H E L L O ? R I G H T O N ! Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:27:18 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6732 [...] — maybe you are not. All this recent talk (here, here, here) about being passionate about one’s job has caused me to reflect. I realize I [...] [...] — maybe you are not. All this recent talk (here, here, here) about being passionate about one’s job has caused me to reflect. I realize I [...]

]]> By: Things to Check Out « Ever Heard of It? http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6731 Things to Check Out « Ever Heard of It? Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:35:16 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6731 [...] Morgan shared a story and some insight into the “other duties as assigned” part of a job description and what your response could say about [...] [...] Morgan shared a story and some insight into the “other duties as assigned” part of a job description and what your response could say about [...]

]]> By: Random Leadership Observation « Jenni Catron http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6730 Random Leadership Observation « Jenni Catron Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:37:25 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6730 [...] Tony Morgan wrote about team attitudes and motivation. [...] [...] Tony Morgan wrote about team attitudes and motivation. [...]

]]> By: Nathan http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6724 Nathan Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:16:59 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6724 Right on. Ministry isn't about doing what you WANT to do--it's about doing what has to be done to reach people. Is the Senior Pastor really above scrubbing toilets? If so, you have a problem. Great call. Right on.
Ministry isn’t about doing what you WANT to do–it’s about doing what has to be done to reach people.
Is the Senior Pastor really above scrubbing toilets? If so, you have a problem.

Great call.

]]> By: NOELHEIKKINEN.com » Blog Archive » Other Duties as Assigned http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6727 NOELHEIKKINEN.com » Blog Archive » Other Duties as Assigned Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:51:12 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6727 [...] just read a great post on TonyMorganLive.com about job descriptions and one particular line in almost all of them: It’s the line after all the [...] [...] just read a great post on TonyMorganLive.com about job descriptions and one particular line in almost all of them: It’s the line after all the [...]

]]> By: Jeremy Isaacs http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6728 Jeremy Isaacs Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:05:03 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6728 I totally agree with post and I'm in an interesting position, I am a department head at a large church. I get fired up when this applies to me and I want my staff to feel the same way. I think what the first 2 commenters are missing is the statement made in the post after talking about my vision for the church, is my "complete trust in my leaders". Because I trust the people over me I don't fear the things expressed in the above comments. My Pastor wouldn't have me stuff envelopes,etc BECAUSE it's not the best use of my talents, skills, etc. But IF HE DID, I would know he felt it was in the best interest of the church. He's human. I'm not implying anything to the contrary, but I trusted him with my skills and talents, when I bought into his vision for this church. If that wasn't the case I shouldn't be here. If I'll only do the things in my area I'm more committed to my departmental silo than the total church. Just my O, from my experience. Jeremy I totally agree with post and I’m in an interesting position, I am a department head at a large church. I get fired up when this applies to me and I want my staff to feel the same way.

I think what the first 2 commenters are missing is the statement made in the post after talking about my vision for the church, is my “complete trust in my leaders”. Because I trust the people over me I don’t fear the things expressed in the above comments. My Pastor wouldn’t have me stuff envelopes,etc BECAUSE it’s not the best use of my talents, skills, etc. But IF HE DID, I would know he felt it was in the best interest of the church. He’s human. I’m not implying anything to the contrary, but I trusted him with my skills and talents, when I bought into his vision for this church. If that wasn’t the case I shouldn’t be here.
If I’ll only do the things in my area I’m more committed to my departmental silo than the total church.

Just my O, from my experience.

Jeremy

]]> By: John http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6729 John Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:00:03 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6729 For "other duties as assigned" to work in a healthy way (as it sounds like they do at NS), there's a huge, unstated corollary that must be present: leaders who are committed to the reasonable workloads of their teams. Without this complementary feature, "other duties as assigned" can become the contractual club used to steadily beat the life out of an employee. I love my organization like crazy AND I trust my leaders completely...but I love my wife and children more. If I've got a totally full plate of work responsibilities and my boss wants me to do another big thing, my response is always going to be, "I'll do ANYTHING you want. I just need to know what you want me to STOP doing." To take on more than is possible to do will result in (among other things) either sub-par work or sub-par family. Everything costs something. Unfortunately, I've seen too many church employees offer their families at the altar built by taskmaster leaders. On my watch, that won't happen again. As long as "other duties as assigned" comes with the promise "I won't ask you to do more than is reasonable," I'm with you 100%. For “other duties as assigned” to work in a healthy way (as it sounds like they do at NS), there’s a huge, unstated corollary that must be present: leaders who are committed to the reasonable workloads of their teams. Without this complementary feature, “other duties as assigned” can become the contractual club used to steadily beat the life out of an employee.

I love my organization like crazy AND I trust my leaders completely…but I love my wife and children more. If I’ve got a totally full plate of work responsibilities and my boss wants me to do another big thing, my response is always going to be, “I’ll do ANYTHING you want. I just need to know what you want me to STOP doing.” To take on more than is possible to do will result in (among other things) either sub-par work or sub-par family. Everything costs something.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen too many church employees offer their families at the altar built by taskmaster leaders. On my watch, that won’t happen again. As long as “other duties as assigned” comes with the promise “I won’t ask you to do more than is reasonable,” I’m with you 100%.

]]> By: Chris S. http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/10/19/other-duties-as-assigned/#comment-6726 Chris S. Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:02:36 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2064#comment-6726 I have to agree with Adam on this. I firmly believe that there are occassions where I need to say no to a project that I am asked to work on because it is outside of my ministry area, outside of my gift areas, and taking away an opportunity for the rest of the body to serve. Many weaker church leaders take this approach to managing staff and it leads to total burnout of the staff members. Now, with all that said, I wouldn't want anyone on my team that is not looking for ways to jump in and support other ministry areas. I want the person that I have to say no to instead of them having to say no to me. I have to agree with Adam on this. I firmly believe that there are occassions where I need to say no to a project that I am asked to work on because it is outside of my ministry area, outside of my gift areas, and taking away an opportunity for the rest of the body to serve. Many weaker church leaders take this approach to managing staff and it leads to total burnout of the staff members. Now, with all that said, I wouldn’t want anyone on my team that is not looking for ways to jump in and support other ministry areas. I want the person that I have to say no to instead of them having to say no to me.

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