Comments on: All Churches Are Marketing http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/ Trying to be strategic. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:28:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Theresa roft http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7585 Theresa roft Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:09:00 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7585 No reason NOT to use wise wisdom in ministry marketing strategies....The internet is a whole new arena in which to share the Good News. But let's do it with a spirit of excellence...Web, video ministry, etc God gets the glory. No reason NOT to use wise wisdom in ministry marketing strategies….The internet is a whole new arena in which to share the Good News. But let’s do it with a spirit of excellence…Web, video ministry, etc God gets the glory.

]]> By: Danny Lucas http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7586 Danny Lucas Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:59:02 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7586 Moderation is lengthy here. The order of comments was this: Antwon Davis December 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm I definitely think that marketing is inevitable. Regardless who you are or what you do, there’s some form of marketing involved - directly or indirectly. However, I think that the idea that marketing will solve the problems of a church is a narrow way of thinking. It takes a church’s focus off the wild Goose Chase and places it on copying other churches. I appreciate your direct approach of telling people to “Stop Marketing!” I think it served as a wake-up-call. Thanks. Danny Lucas December 10th, 2008 at 9:22 pm The Lord Jesus Christ failed to use a single bullet you present, with the possible exception of the final item: “The word-of-mouth marketing that involves one person telling another person to visit your church. ” Even with THAT one, word-of-mouth was NOT used to get people to visit church. Word-of-mouth was used to get people to know Christ. The problem with marketing is that churches are marketed. What people need is not church; they need Jesus Christ. But churches fear that if they market Christ, instead of their church, people will turn to Him, instead of them. Suddenly, there will be no meetings to discuss $20,000 to pave our new parking lot. People following Christ will be spending their money feeding the poor. New musical instruments, media, and Christmas plays won’t matter. Folks will be in prayer, and visiting prisoners to proclaim the Good News. Divorce Recovery, Addiction Recovery, Sports, The Haven and caves for teens will not be given a thought as they are a gigantic to-do list to keep everyone so busy for the church, that Christ doesn’t matter. Amazingly, without the continued pursuit of Jesus and simply knowing Him better, the pews begin to empty. People “church shop” and continue that practice, for what they seek is Jesus,…but what they find is church and programs, and folks pretty much like the ones who never attend church. God does not need man to build His church. The rocks and stones would cry out “word-of-rock” marketing, I guess, if there were no church. Spend your money on the poor, the sick, the homeless, the low in spirit instead of bulletins, JumboTrons, louder music, TV, and pavement or buildings. It might lead someone to Christ……just the way He did. Your comment is awaiting moderation. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To request comment and not print them is counterintuitive at best. Your audience deserves a spectrum of thought. I found you on a link. I suspect they are unaware that all comments must agree with the post to be printed. In 12 new locations and comments the day I posted here, all linked from one to the other, your site was the sole censorship on the net. One, inadvertently deleted and posted that, so I could resend a copy. That's marketing a blog well, eh? Moderation is lengthy here.
The order of comments was this:

Antwon Davis
December 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm

I definitely think that marketing is inevitable. Regardless who you are or what you do, there’s some form of marketing involved – directly or indirectly.

However, I think that the idea that marketing will solve the problems of a church is a narrow way of thinking. It takes a church’s focus off the wild Goose Chase and places it on copying other churches.

I appreciate your direct approach of telling people to “Stop Marketing!” I think it served as a wake-up-call.

Thanks.

Danny Lucas
December 10th, 2008 at 9:22 pm

The Lord Jesus Christ failed to use a single bullet you present, with the possible exception of the final item:
“The word-of-mouth marketing that involves one person telling another person to visit your church. ”

Even with THAT one, word-of-mouth was NOT used to get people to visit church.
Word-of-mouth was used to get people to know Christ.

The problem with marketing is that churches are marketed.
What people need is not church; they need Jesus Christ.

But churches fear that if they market Christ, instead of their church, people will turn to Him, instead of them.

Suddenly, there will be no meetings to discuss $20,000 to pave our new parking lot. People following Christ will be spending their money feeding the poor.

New musical instruments, media, and Christmas plays won’t matter. Folks will be in prayer, and visiting prisoners to proclaim the Good News.

Divorce Recovery, Addiction Recovery, Sports, The Haven and caves for teens will not be given a thought as they are a gigantic to-do list to keep everyone so busy for the church, that Christ doesn’t matter.

Amazingly, without the continued pursuit of Jesus and simply knowing Him better, the pews begin to empty. People “church shop” and continue that practice, for what they seek is Jesus,…but what they find is church and programs, and folks pretty much like the ones who never attend church.

God does not need man to build His church.
The rocks and stones would cry out “word-of-rock” marketing, I guess, if there were no church.

Spend your money on the poor, the sick, the homeless, the low in spirit instead of bulletins, JumboTrons, louder music, TV, and pavement or buildings. It might lead someone to Christ……just the way He did.

Your comment is awaiting moderation.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To request comment and not print them is counterintuitive at best. Your audience deserves a spectrum of thought.
I found you on a link.
I suspect they are unaware that all comments must agree with the post to be printed.

In 12 new locations and comments the day I posted here, all linked from one to the other, your site was the sole censorship on the net.

One, inadvertently deleted and posted that, so I could resend a copy. That’s marketing a blog well, eh?

]]> By: Linking Up « Neil’s Blog http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7587 Linking Up « Neil’s Blog Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:29:18 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7587 [...] is making some great posts about church marketing.  It reminds me of Church Marketing 101. [...] [...] is making some great posts about church marketing.  It reminds me of Church Marketing 101. [...]

]]> By: Graham Brenna http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7588 Graham Brenna Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:46:52 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7588 ahh... cliffhanger! I posted (http://tinyurl.com/fusion125) about a great book by Nelson Searcy from "The Journey" church in New York. He's talking about a different form of marketing... but marketing none-the-less. ahh… cliffhanger! I posted (http://tinyurl.com/fusion125) about a great book by Nelson Searcy from “The Journey” church in New York. He’s talking about a different form of marketing… but marketing none-the-less.

]]> By: JD http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7584 JD Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:56:39 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7584 I think we have no choice to embrace marketing. No marketing would be better than poor marketing, but you have already said that is not possible for a church to have no marketing. Therefore, this is an area that must receive more attention from churches. Sadly, for most churches, advertising is an after thought, and most of those catchy sings out front all come from the same books or websites. I think we have no choice to embrace marketing. No marketing would be better than poor marketing, but you have already said that is not possible for a church to have no marketing. Therefore, this is an area that must receive more attention from churches.
Sadly, for most churches, advertising is an after thought, and most of those catchy sings out front all come from the same books or websites.

]]> By: Keith Barger http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7583 Keith Barger Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:38:07 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7583 Nice! I'm thoroughly intrigued. Waiting for the next post... Nice! I’m thoroughly intrigued.

Waiting for the next post…

]]> By: Thinking about Church Marketing « Temple Baptist Church http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7582 Thinking about Church Marketing « Temple Baptist Church Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:12:12 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7582 [...] All Churches Are Marketing [...] [...] All Churches Are Marketing [...]

]]> By: Antwon Davis http://tonymorganlive.com/2008/12/10/all-churches-are-marketing/#comment-7581 Antwon Davis Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:23:49 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=2302#comment-7581 I definitely think that marketing is inevitable. Regardless who you are or what you do, there's some form of marketing involved - directly or indirectly. However, I think that the idea that marketing will solve the problems of a church is a narrow way of thinking. It takes a church's focus off the wild Goose Chase and places it on copying other churches. I appreciate your direct approach of telling people to "Stop Marketing!" I think it served as a wake-up-call. Thanks. I definitely think that marketing is inevitable. Regardless who you are or what you do, there’s some form of marketing involved – directly or indirectly.

However, I think that the idea that marketing will solve the problems of a church is a narrow way of thinking. It takes a church’s focus off the wild Goose Chase and places it on copying other churches.

I appreciate your direct approach of telling people to “Stop Marketing!” I think it served as a wake-up-call.

Thanks.

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