February 26, 2009 in
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- 6:12 PM tonymorganlive - Welcome friends. Andy is preparing for the final session. Go ahead and let your friends know. We’re also taking comments here.
- 6:14 PM tonymorganlive - “What has momentum and what doesn’t?”
- 6:16 PM tonymorganlive - ministry “programming begins as an answer to a question”
- 6:17 PM tonymorganlive - “It ends up becoming part of our culture. It defines us.”
- 6:19 PM tonymorganlive - Andy is talking about an old couch on the platform.
- 6:19 PM tonymorganlive - It looks like a couch in my grandma’s house.
- 6:20 PM tonymorganlive - The couch started out as something to sit on, but it stays around for years and years and can’t be thrown out because people have an emotional attachment to it.
- 6:21 PM tonymorganlive - “In church life, this is deadly. It creates all kinds of problems.”
- 6:21 PM tonymorganlive - “All ministry programming becomes an old, out-dated couch.”
- 6:22 PM tonymorganlive - “If your passion is outsiders, then there are some couches that must be retired.”
- 6:23 PM tonymorganlive - “It’s difficult because it’s very, very emotional.”
- 6:26 PM tonymorganlive - “At some point a generation will come along and say, ‘I’m just not going to sit there.’”
- 6:26 PM tonymorganlive - “I don’t know the answers to the ‘how’ questions in your particular ministry environment.”
- 6:28 PM tonymorganlive - “We must be more committed to our mission rather than our programming or model.”
- 6:28 PM tonymorganlive - We’re comparing to the church we came out of.
- 6:30 PM tonymorganlive - “My tendency will be to love our model more than our mission because it’s what I’m comfortable with.”
- 6:31 PM tonymorganlive - “The goal is to lead people into a growing relationship with Jesus Christ.”
- 6:31 PM tonymorganlive - Andy said church planting is the most difficult job next to being a single mom.
- 6:32 PM tonymorganlive - “If you are a denominational leader, you were probably hired to protect the model.”
- 6:34 PM tonymorganlive - “You don’t even have any people. I don’t have people. You don’t have people. There are just people.”
- 6:38 PM tonymorganlive - “The goal wasn’t to have great singers. The goal was to get people in the choir.”
- 6:38 PM tonymorganlive - (Cowboy-hat-guy just walked back in the room.)
- 6:39 PM tonymorganlive - Andy just quoted Seth Godin. “Don’t fall in love with a tactic.”
- 6:42 PM tonymorganlive - “Where are we manufacturing energy?”
- 6:46 PM tonymorganlive - “What God originates, God orchestrates.”
- 6:46 PM tonymorganlive - “If you commit to the what, God will show you how.”
- 6:50 PM tonymorganlive - “We made a list of all our assumptions.”
- 6:51 PM tonymorganlive - “What do we assume about people and how to reach them?”
- 6:52 PM tonymorganlive - “We’ve assumed we have to get people to sit in rows and teach to them.”
- 6:52 PM tonymorganlive - “We assume Christians like to sing.”
- 6:53 PM tonymorganlive - “We program kids ministry as if they’re going to be there every week.”
- 6:54 PM tonymorganlive - “Information and inspiration don’t necessarily produce transformation.”
- 6:56 PM tonymorganlive - “What are we doing to help people on Sunday morning to stick? We’re spending a lot of time helping people to gather.”
- 6:57 PM tonymorganlive - “What are we assuming?”
- 6:59 PM tonymorganlive - “We have to continue to examine our assumptions.”

Thanks for the notes. I love this Cliff Notes style and man each sentence makes me think deep and long and hard. Grace to you Tony.
Great meeting you today and putting a person with a blog/tweets! Also, your notes are amazing. I will definitely utilize that they are all here. Thank you.
thanks for the notes Tony.
If this is accurate, this is a great sign to me from Mr. Stanley. There are a lot of assumptions we all make about things in ministry. When we defend our model, or see our model as the way, we are in danger of missing the point.
Hey,
I’m going to the Catalyst One day in Dallas,
I want to take some great notes like you, how
do you do it?
Are you going to be there?
I’m hoping to take a book and get an autograph!!!