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		<title>By: tony morgan</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-72635</link>
		<dc:creator>tony morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 16:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Amos&quot;, you have to ignore a lot of passages to suggest the Bible doesn&#039;t identify the need for &quot;pastors&quot; within the church who are called to shepherd, lead and teach. Here are just a sample for you to begin your study:

&gt; Jeremiah 3:15
&gt; John 21:16-18
&gt; Ezekiel 34:2
&gt; Ephesians 4:11-13
&gt; Acts 20:28
&gt; I Peter 5:2-3
&gt; I Timothy 3
&gt; I Timothy 5:17
&gt; Titus 1
&gt; II Timothy 2:2
&gt; II Timothy 3:16
&gt; Acts 6:1-7
&gt; Romans 12:6-8
&gt; Hebrews 13:17
&gt; Exodus 18:21

I read through those passages and see a leadership, teaching and shepherding role that looks very much like the role of &quot;pastor&quot; we see in today&#039;s churches.

I think it&#039;s possible you&#039;re getting hung up on the title &quot;pastor&quot;, but failing to recognize God&#039;s design for the church to embrace the role of a &quot;pastor&quot;.

We may not agree on the label, but the role is certainly found in Scripture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Amos&#8221;, you have to ignore a lot of passages to suggest the Bible doesn&#8217;t identify the need for &#8220;pastors&#8221; within the church who are called to shepherd, lead and teach. Here are just a sample for you to begin your study:</p>
<p>&gt; Jeremiah 3:15<br />
&gt; John 21:16-18<br />
&gt; Ezekiel 34:2<br />
&gt; Ephesians 4:11-13<br />
&gt; Acts 20:28<br />
&gt; I Peter 5:2-3<br />
&gt; I Timothy 3<br />
&gt; I Timothy 5:17<br />
&gt; Titus 1<br />
&gt; II Timothy 2:2<br />
&gt; II Timothy 3:16<br />
&gt; Acts 6:1-7<br />
&gt; Romans 12:6-8<br />
&gt; Hebrews 13:17<br />
&gt; Exodus 18:21</p>
<p>I read through those passages and see a leadership, teaching and shepherding role that looks very much like the role of &#8220;pastor&#8221; we see in today&#8217;s churches.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s possible you&#8217;re getting hung up on the title &#8220;pastor&#8221;, but failing to recognize God&#8217;s design for the church to embrace the role of a &#8220;pastor&#8221;.</p>
<p>We may not agree on the label, but the role is certainly found in Scripture.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Amos Love</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-72607</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Amos Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 14:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible the reason &quot;Burnout&quot; is such 
a problem for today&#039;s &quot;Pastor/Leader&quot; is 
they have found themselves with a 
&quot;Title&quot; and &quot;Position&quot; NOT found in the Bible?

Did anyone have the “Title” “pastor” in the Bible?
Was anyone ordained a “pastor” in the Bible?
Any congregations &quot;led&quot; by a “pastor” in the Bible?

And every “pastor” I’ve met also had
the “Title” “Reverend.”

Does anyone have the “Title” Reverend in the Bible?

In my experience...

Titles become Idols.
Pastors become Masters.

Heavy weights on shoulders NOT easy to lay down.

Jesus taught “His Disciples” 
NOT to be called “Master/Leader”
For you have “ONE” “Master/Leader” The Christ. 
Mat 23:8-10 KJV

Ezekiel 14:1-7, speaks about &quot;Idols of the Heart,&quot; 
and now God will speak to us according to 
the &quot;Idols of our Heart.&quot;

And other sheep I have, 
which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring, 
and they shall “hear my voice;”
and there shall be &quot;ONE&quot; fold, 
and &quot;ONE&quot; shepherd.
John 10:16

One Fold - One Shepherd - One Voice.
If Not Now, When?

Be blessed in your search for Truth... Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible the reason &#8220;Burnout&#8221; is such<br />
a problem for today&#8217;s &#8220;Pastor/Leader&#8221; is<br />
they have found themselves with a<br />
&#8220;Title&#8221; and &#8220;Position&#8221; NOT found in the Bible?</p>
<p>Did anyone have the “Title” “pastor” in the Bible?<br />
Was anyone ordained a “pastor” in the Bible?<br />
Any congregations &#8220;led&#8221; by a “pastor” in the Bible?</p>
<p>And every “pastor” I’ve met also had<br />
the “Title” “Reverend.”</p>
<p>Does anyone have the “Title” Reverend in the Bible?</p>
<p>In my experience&#8230;</p>
<p>Titles become Idols.<br />
Pastors become Masters.</p>
<p>Heavy weights on shoulders NOT easy to lay down.</p>
<p>Jesus taught “His Disciples”<br />
NOT to be called “Master/Leader”<br />
For you have “ONE” “Master/Leader” The Christ.<br />
Mat 23:8-10 KJV</p>
<p>Ezekiel 14:1-7, speaks about &#8220;Idols of the Heart,&#8221;<br />
and now God will speak to us according to<br />
the &#8220;Idols of our Heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>And other sheep I have,<br />
which are not of this fold:<br />
them also I must bring,<br />
and they shall “hear my voice;”<br />
and there shall be &#8220;ONE&#8221; fold,<br />
and &#8220;ONE&#8221; shepherd.<br />
John 10:16</p>
<p>One Fold &#8211; One Shepherd &#8211; One Voice.<br />
If Not Now, When?</p>
<p>Be blessed in your search for Truth&#8230; Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Leading vs. Managing &#124; The Next Generation Ministries</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-40974</link>
		<dc:creator>Leading vs. Managing &#124; The Next Generation Ministries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read Anne Jackson’s new book, Mad Church Disease, a few months ago. This quote from Wayne Cordeiro, the senior pastor of New Hope Christian [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Leading vs. Managing (Part 1) at neoLeader</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-24995</link>
		<dc:creator>Leading vs. Managing (Part 1) at neoLeader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read Anne Jackson&#8217;s new book, Mad Church Disease, a few months ago. This quote from Wayne Cordeiro, the senior pastor of New Hope Christian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read Anne Jackson&#8217;s new book, Mad Church Disease, a few months ago. This quote from Wayne Cordeiro, the senior pastor of New Hope Christian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leading vs. Managing &#124; TonyMorganLive.com</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-19833</link>
		<dc:creator>Leading vs. Managing &#124; TonyMorganLive.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read Anne Jackson&#8217;s new book, Mad Church Disease, a few months ago. This quote from Wayne Cordeiro, the senior pastor of New Hope Christian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] read Anne Jackson&#8217;s new book, Mad Church Disease, a few months ago. This quote from Wayne Cordeiro, the senior pastor of New Hope Christian [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MINISTRY BURNOUT - CAUSES, CURES &#171; Beyond the Course</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-11364</link>
		<dc:creator>MINISTRY BURNOUT - CAUSES, CURES &#171; Beyond the Course</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read Tony Morgan&#8217;s book review of Mad Cow Disease [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Best of the Best this week &#124; Planting Space</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-10422</link>
		<dc:creator>Best of the Best this week &#124; Planting Space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mad Church Disease [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Waits</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-10270</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,  Thanks for your summary of these books.  I pass them along to staff so they can check out recommended materials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,  Thanks for your summary of these books.  I pass them along to staff so they can check out recommended materials.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-10268</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love the quote, “You are responsible both for the choices you’ve made in life and for seeking God’s plan for your healing.”  thanks for the review and nuggets of insight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love the quote, “You are responsible both for the choices you’ve made in life and for seeking God’s plan for your healing.”  thanks for the review and nuggets of insight</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Rossen</title>
		<link>http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/03/17/mad-church-disease/#comment-10247</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Rossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice use of the highlight feature of the Kindle. I&#039;ll do the same with Killing Cockroaches soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice use of the highlight feature of the Kindle. I&#8217;ll do the same with Killing Cockroaches soon.</p>
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