Comments on: Leading vs. Managing http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/ Trying to be strategic. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:28:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Leading vs. Managing (Part 2) at neoLeader http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-26022 Leading vs. Managing (Part 2) at neoLeader Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:03:35 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-26022 [...] Link to original article in Uncategorized. Feed for this Entry Trackback Address [...] [...] Link to original article in Uncategorized. Feed for this Entry Trackback Address [...]

]]> By: Ron Edmondson http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-21705 Ron Edmondson Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:14:21 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-21705 I wrote about this topic last summer and it caused a stir in the Organizational Leadership master's program I am a part of. This is a dividing line apparently for some in the academic world. You can read my post here: http://www.ronedmondson.com/2008/07/are-you-are-leader-or-a-manager.html Obviously I agree with you. I wrote about this topic last summer and it caused a stir in the Organizational Leadership master’s program I am a part of. This is a dividing line apparently for some in the academic world.

You can read my post here:
http://www.ronedmondson.com/2008/07/are-you-are-leader-or-a-manager.html

Obviously I agree with you.

]]> By: Bloggin’ Time again… « scotto’s think tank http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-21562 Bloggin’ Time again… « scotto’s think tank Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:53:33 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-21562 [...] Wade Joye (via Steven Furtick) – Service Evaluation From Tony Morgan – Leading vs. Managing From Clayton King – Is it Possible to Stay Pure? From Erwin McManus – The Cause Driven [...] [...] Wade Joye (via Steven Furtick) – Service Evaluation From Tony Morgan – Leading vs. Managing From Clayton King – Is it Possible to Stay Pure? From Erwin McManus – The Cause Driven [...]

]]> By: Rodney Hunt http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20777 Rodney Hunt Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:21:31 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20777 Great discussion and I have been thinking about this blog post the past week, so great post to get people thinking about this subject. I feel the tension that others have expressed, I have both gifts of leadership and administration and have to use both gifts in my role as a small groups pastor. As a shepherd there are times I need to lead and times I need to "manage" the flock. There are definitely pastors that tend to be stronger in one area or the other. Still, my experience has been that all of us as pastors need to function in both roles time to time depending on the situation. Andy Stanley also comes to mind as a well known pastor who seems to function very well in both roles, at least from an outsider vantage point. Great discussion and I have been thinking about this blog post the past week, so great post to get people thinking about this subject. I feel the tension that others have expressed, I have both gifts of leadership and administration and have to use both gifts in my role as a small groups pastor. As a shepherd there are times I need to lead and times I need to “manage” the flock. There are definitely pastors that tend to be stronger in one area or the other. Still, my experience has been that all of us as pastors need to function in both roles time to time depending on the situation. Andy Stanley also comes to mind as a well known pastor who seems to function very well in both roles, at least from an outsider vantage point.

]]> By: Rich Johnson http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20741 Rich Johnson Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:35:34 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20741 I love this debate over Leading v. Managing, especially because I am pastor on staff at a large weekend attendance in Columbus, Ohio. It seems to me that "the church" has taken in too much of traditional management systems found in secular organizations only to find that there is no one-to-one correlation. Just because we're responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, thousands of people, and under the public eye doesn't mean we should hunker down to make sure our charts are color coordinated and every goal is met with precision. Now I find it interesting that many secular organizations are becoming more "spiritual", while Christian organizations are becoming more "management oriented". I don't have any articles to point you to at the moment. My comment here comes from the conversations I have had with business professionals in our congregation. I am being cynical, of course. My bent is towards management, because I know we are ultimately accountable to God for the things we've been entrusted with. I love systems, charts, graphs, and goal setting/metrics. And I am also a spiritual being. God has given me[us] the most precious gift we could ever receive...HIS SPIRIT. It's the Holy Spirit that gives me the spiritual gift of administration (also translated leadership, see Romans 12:8). I am seeking to find the value of both leading and management, because I don't believe it's an either/or conclusion to the matter. It really is the Spirit in which we lead and manage. I love this debate over Leading v. Managing, especially because I am pastor on staff at a large weekend attendance in Columbus, Ohio. It seems to me that “the church” has taken in too much of traditional management systems found in secular organizations only to find that there is no one-to-one correlation. Just because we’re responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, thousands of people, and under the public eye doesn’t mean we should hunker down to make sure our charts are color coordinated and every goal is met with precision.
Now I find it interesting that many secular organizations are becoming more “spiritual”, while Christian organizations are becoming more “management oriented”. I don’t have any articles to point you to at the moment. My comment here comes from the conversations I have had with business professionals in our congregation.
I am being cynical, of course. My bent is towards management, because I know we are ultimately accountable to God for the things we’ve been entrusted with. I love systems, charts, graphs, and goal setting/metrics.
And I am also a spiritual being. God has given me[us] the most precious gift we could ever receive…HIS SPIRIT. It’s the Holy Spirit that gives me the spiritual gift of administration (also translated leadership, see Romans 12:8). I am seeking to find the value of both leading and management, because I don’t believe it’s an either/or conclusion to the matter. It really is the Spirit in which we lead and manage.

]]> By: Mama Dalton http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20499 Mama Dalton Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:26:19 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20499 I'm late to the discussion, however, the styles discussed, and whether or not someone is serving in the area of their maximum giftedness, whether management or leadership, is especially critical if they are managing or leading volunteers...just think about the differences for a moment...are they looking for the uniqueness and finding just the right way to release those talents into the kingdom, or are they pushing and trying to activate the strategic thinking and vision prior to knowing what those talents might be? I’m late to the discussion, however, the styles discussed, and whether or not someone is serving in the area of their maximum giftedness, whether management or leadership, is especially critical if they are managing or leading volunteers…just think about the differences for a moment…are they looking for the uniqueness and finding just the right way to release those talents into the kingdom, or are they pushing and trying to activate the strategic thinking and vision prior to knowing what those talents might be?

]]> By: Friday Links « Life Interrupted http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20420 Friday Links « Life Interrupted Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:46:43 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20420 [...] Tony Morgan shares a good article on Management [...] [...] Tony Morgan shares a good article on Management [...]

]]> By: Links of the Week « My World http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20386 Links of the Week « My World Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:28:43 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20386 [...] Morgan on Leading vs. managing. Is there a difference? Does it [...] [...] Morgan on Leading vs. managing. Is there a difference? Does it [...]

]]> By: Two-week best of church planting blog post round-up | Planting Space http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20380 Two-week best of church planting blog post round-up | Planting Space Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:50:42 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20380 [...] Leading vs. Managing [...] [...] Leading vs. Managing [...]

]]> By: Leading vrs Managing by Tony « Small Group Pastors http://tonymorganlive.com/2009/06/14/leading-vs-managing/#comment-20183 Leading vrs Managing by Tony « Small Group Pastors Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:52:43 +0000 http://tonymorganlive.com/?p=4190#comment-20183 [...] in Uncategorized at 6:46 pm by centralcouples Tony Morgan posted this on his blog recently and I think it is something that a lot of us pastors and leaders face in our ministry [...] [...] in Uncategorized at 6:46 pm by centralcouples Tony Morgan posted this on his blog recently and I think it is something that a lot of us pastors and leaders face in our ministry [...]

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