December 4, 2008 Tony Morgan

10 Reasons I Don’t Like Most Christians

After going back and forth on this for a couple of weeks, I’ve decided to just do it. I mentioned recently that I’m not sure I like Christians. With the help of some of my friends, here are the top…

10 Reasons I Don’t Like Most Christians

  1. They consistently seem angry and bitter and worried. I thought Christians were supposed to reflect joy and kindness and peace.
  2. They don’t dream big dreams. That seems odd given the fact that we’re supposedly worshiping a God who is “able to accomplish infinitely more than we would ever dare ask or hope.”
  3. They seem to worship their theology more than Jesus. For whatever reason, this appears to be especially true for folks that come from a reformed theology.
  4. They don’t like it when other people or ministries experience success. Think about it. There are Christians who would be overwhelmed with joy if NewSpring experienced fewer salvations, fewer baptisms and our attendance dropped.
  5. They use prayer as an excuse for inaction. They’re waiting for God to do his thing, but they aren’t willing to step out in faith and obedience.
  6. They’re more concerned with the BMW next door than the lost person who drives it. Christians hate people with money. They’re willing to sacrifice time and money for those without it, but they’re satisfied to let “rich” people go to Hell.
  7. They would rather people live life without Jesus than give up their personal preferences. What happens when your preferred teacher doesn’t teach? What happens when your preferred worship leader doesn’t lead? What happens when you don’t like the music?
  8. They are fake. They dress up a certain way on Sunday and they live as completely different people the rest of the week.
  9. They think they’re better than other people. That’s why they create rules to follow. It helps differentiate why they are holy while others are not.
  10. They’re comfortable with mediocrity. Doesn’t matter where. Think Christian music and movies. Think how we invest our time and money. You don’t seriously think God deserves our best do you?

The reality is that I’ve sinned in just about every one of these areas. It pains me to say that, but it’s true. If people hear the Gospel and reject Jesus, that’s one thing. If I’m the barrier to people accepting Christ because of me and my sin, that’s a completely different deal. Fortunately, God’s much bigger than my stupidity.

When does your humanness get in the way of people knowing the hope, forgiveness and love of Jesus? Does your life make people curious about the claims of Jesus or does it make them flee? What would you add to the list?

Tony Morgan

Tony is the Founder and Lead Strategist of The Unstuck Group. Started in 2009, The Unstuck Group has served 500 churches throughout the United States and several countries around the world. Previously, Tony served on the senior leadership teams of three rapidly growing churches including NewSpring Church in South Carolina. He has five published books including, The Unstuck Church, and, with Amy Anderson, he hosts The Unstuck Church Podcast which has thousands of listeners each month.

Comments (107)

  1. I agree with everything you just wrote and could have written a book about this… 5 years ago. These are the statements that used to come out of my mouth. I feel like i am constantly trying to push christians toward excellence and invite them to dream bigger than themselves. And i feel like all the reasons you just wrote about are things i don’t see nearly as much anymore. Sure, it all still exists, but i see a lot less of it. Maybe i’ve simply surrounded myself with people who are passionate about advancing the Kingdom by force and not with mediocrity. Thanks for the post, though. Reminds me of the things i used to sit around and ponder about, but now i’m thankful that it seems the trend is shifting and i’m seeing new things.

  2. Great post Tony. You’ve been bringin’ it lately. Good stuff. I would have to agree with you and I too have found myself in a lot of these all too frequently. Thank God for His grace and mercy in the midst of my ignorance. I think it is time that we fight like never before to overcome these and place our focus where it should be. We should be focused on Jesus like no other and compelled to reach our neighbors, coworkers, and whoever else my cross our paths. You got me fired up this morning!

  3. Vaughn

    One thing I hate is when you see a business advertise with a cross or icthus. I will avoid those like the plague. They usually do the shoddiest work and will screw you out of money, all while luring someone to trade with them because they’re a “Christian business”.

  4. This reminds me of a poem by Stephen Crane.

    ::: googling, please wait :::

    —-
    In the desert
    I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
    Who, squatting upon the ground,
    Held his heart in his hands,
    And ate of it.
    I said, “Is it good, friend?”
    “It is bitter – bitter”, he answered,
    “But I like it
    Because it is bitter,
    And because it is my heart.”
    —-

    Christians like me.

    Absorbed with self.

    Myopic.

    We’re handicapped by our own choices and we have the nerve to be bitter about it.

    peace|dewde

  5. I concur with your observations about why Christians often get a bad wrap. It’s so frustrating to see people caught up in being right versus being in relationship. You’re also, IMO, spot on with regard to dreaming too small. It’s the ol’ two spies saw opportunity while eight saw defeat.

    I must, however, differ with your assessment that “most” Christians are this way. Call me optimistic or idealistic, or maybe it’s my short-term memory.

    If I take an honest look at myself, I’ve struggled with all of those things at some point or another. Thankfully God uses us in spite of ourselves!

    Well said.

  6. Gareth

    I agree. Numbers 4, 7, and 9 are probably my biggest irritation-filler-up’ers. Not sure I could add anything to that list but I do hope my life makes people curious about the claims of Jesus. Great post.

  7. #10 hits me like a bunch of bricks. I always feel like it’s easy to point out when others are being mediocre but for some reason today it hit me hard that I am not always giving God my best.

  8. Bubba

    Great post. Always good to question the status quo. I wonder how much “religion” gets in the way of following, and therefore living like, Jesus?

    Much of what you have in your 10 reasons strike me as being very religious without being Christian. And that’s where our humanness often gets in the way. Trying to make God fit in our manmade box instead of trying to to conform our lives to his will.

    I have the biggest problems when I get frustrated. My personal preference to bull forward and “solve the problem” definitely doesn’t point the way to Jesus. It is a pride issue, for sure.

    Thanks for the thought provoking stuff.

  9. Ouch. You speak the truth, though. I often wonder why Christians are so unhappy all the time. Sometimes we can be a bunch of Debbie-downers. Waaah-waaaawh.

  10. Brandon

    It’s an insightful article and I’m going to challenge my readers to check it out and grapple with it – thanks for the forthright challenge! I still struggle with whether I’m being totally real or not, but I will say that recently God has opened a lot of doors for me to engage people in the culture around us with the gospel and it isn’t happening the way I was “trained” in Bible college.

  11. wow, are you [the author] racist too? this is probably the most bigot-oriented, blanked-carpeting, ignorant, and prejudiced thing ive read in a long time. i hate people who judge entire ethnic or social groups based on a few of their own experiences, but i dont go out of my way to blog about it, instead i lead by example :-\.

  12. Kristine

    You know at first when I read your blog I thought, yup, that’s very true. And then I read something else that made me wonder if all of the fussing and complaining we do about Christians (essentially shooting friendly fire into our own camp) isnt unlike negative reinforcement. Perhaps if we lead by example, rather than making lists, the church will show more improvement. I, for one, am willing to stop thinking of all the things the church does wrong and start trying to think more of things we do right, and go from there. Thanks for the food for thought :)

  13. Matthew

    Really great post Tony. Love how you hit on “comfortable with mediocrity, and use pray as an excuse for inaction.”

  14. I’d love to chat face to face, but based on what you’ve written, it seems to me that perhaps you do have a little chip on your shoulder! With these statements are you not being the judge of all others? Not knowing you in person, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, that your comments stem from genuine concern. Certainly a lot can be lost in a written comment. Yes, there are nominal Christians; people who just want to pray a magic prayer and hope they are saved. For some there is never a thought of repentance, no desire in taking up one’s cross to follow Jesus, no understanding of dying to self – allowing Christ to increase while self decreases, a reluctance in sharing the gospel with everyone they meet and an unwillingness to be set apart from the world while still living in it. But the Holy Spirit is not done yet with every one of us and for that I am extremely grateful. We need pastors who will teach the depth of God’s Word and the Holy Spirit will do His work of changing the person’s life! In personal conversation you’d be able to explain exactly what you mean by some of your points, but alas I now have a pile of questions about your strong negative opinions of your brothers and sisters in Christ.

  15. Great list. Painfully true. I’ve messed up all of these at one point in my life. #4 is one that hits close to (blog) home. I confess that when I see other Christian blogs wildly succeed, my first thought isn’t “Yay! There are talented, honest people showing God’s love in talented, honest ways.” I usually get jealous, feel a little sick and then feel like a loser for not doing whatever it is that they’re doing to grow their site. All of which are really selfish, sinful reactions. This usually happens when I get confused and think that the things I do are meant to reflect my glory, not God’s.
    Jon

  16. Number 11…They make up lists like this. We are all flawed…everyday I struggle to be more like the Master. We need to start with ourselves first, removing planks after planks. Those who we might place on any kind of list are our brothers and sisters, who need (like us) Father God to show us who we really are in Him.
    Peace,
    Jay

  17. Great list. Makes me wonder what the world would look like if more Christians were focused on God rather than themselves. This list would disappear because we’d all be living God’s dreams for our lives rather than living safe, boring, unfulfilled lives.

    Most of my friends who are not Christians would whole-heartedly agree as well.

    Looks like you stepped on some toes :)

  18. Jo

    You’ve been “ruined” for the Gospel. Once your heart has been stretched to a bigger vision, it cannot return to its original shape. Once you have experienced greatness, you’ll be dissatisfied with those who settle for average. For the sake of the Gospel, Friend, let those folks go and without bitterness. Move on with people who are hazarding their lives to win souls. The world is full of them.

  19. My first response is that I have seen this stuff in my life at one time or another. Transformation is only God’s grace. My second response is that we need to be careful of our reaction to another person’s sin or that where they are spiritually does not lead us into sin. Moses was not able to enter the promised land because of his reaction to the sin of the children of Israel. One of the most valuable lessons I learned personally from John Maxwell was that a leader must see people as they can become vs. how they are. John is by far the best people developer I have ever seen. He loves individual people (with sin) so much and that gives him greater influence. After reading your post people may hesitate to be real for feeling the lack of love and grace. This minimizes your influence. I do appreciate your ministry and most Christians I know are excited about what God is doing at NewSpring. My husband and I have never met Perry but love him from a distance. We love his blog and appreciate his ministry that he freely shares with others outside of SC. My heart rejoices everytime I read about new converts, baptisms and the new servcies starting there. There are many Christians out there who are passionate followers of Jesus and growing in their faith as they are transformed by the Word and others who come along side of them in love. That is also a result of life to life discipleship.

  20. Nope, toes are fine! ;-)

    The journey of following Jesus has taken me through many transformations. Over that 40 year span, I’ve seen all these things in my life (and more) be lovingly corrected by the Father. I have a friend (a non-follower of Christ) who has a list similar to this and it gives us a chance to dialog and talk.

    I just feel that as follow sojourners, we need to be careful how we list “one another”…that is all.

    Peace,
    Jay

  21. to the naysayers — did you read PAST the list? did you get the POINT?

    “The reality is that I’ve sinned in just about every one of these areas. It pains me to say that, but it’s true. If people hear the Gospel and reject Jesus, that’s one thing. If I’m the barrier to people accepting Christ because of me and my sin, that’s a completely different deal. Fortunately, God’s much bigger than my stupidity.

    When does your humanness get in the way of people knowing the hope, forgiveness and love of Jesus? Does your life make people curious about the claims of Jesus or does it make them flee? What would you add to the list?””

    I could be wrong, but I think the whole idea behind the list is to open our eyes to the state of our own hearts and LET GOD make some changes there. Methinks those who protest this process doth protest too much…

    Thanks Tony — and owwie.

  22. Does your life make people curious about the claims of Jesus or does it make them flee?

    this question in particular …….so much guidance needed…

  23. I read past the list and commented accordingly, why can’t I humbly post a comment and NOT get “listed” as a naysayer?
    Was I protesting? Hmmm, I think not. I wasn’t even disagreeing, just offering a perspective from my experience.

    I usually don’t post comments…this is why.

    Jay

  24. Jay, my comments were not aimed at any particular person, my apologies if you thought so. I will never, ever condemn anyone for what they say, I only post things like this to make people think about what they’ve said. (Usually because I’ve had to do that very thing.)
    Again, my apologies for any offense, it was not my intent.

  25. Seems like more of a call for those of us that do follow Jesus to do something about it. Andy Stanley made a good point at Catalyst by pressing leaders to lead when they see problems. The church body often times doesn’t know any better because their leaders speak but don’t walk.

  26. Jim Z

    Amen
    To all who are angry, do I hear Love or guilt
    I have come from a long line of reformed Christians and I find them to be very “religious” and full of rules and regulations which I failed to follow, and I was put down and cast out for it by my own church. I ask you all, where is the LOVE in all that?
    I am not bitter because of it, because even though it took years for me to feel a need for God in my life, it made me understand that inorder to truly have God in my life there was and is NO room for RELIGION!
    “Religion” I feel is a system of rules and regulations that uses shame and guilt to keep Christians in line.
    I have chosen the LOVE of Jesus to keep me in line.
    I believe Jesus came, to trade our rules and regulations, for LOVE.
    Rules and Reg’s make people bitter
    LOVE, true LOVE does more good than anyone could ever imagine.
    LOVE is the greatest gift of all, and if we all lived a life of LOVE in all we say and do there would be no list.
    LOVE you all.

  27. Kirt Manuel

    Tony, couldn’t these same statements apply to just about anyone, Christian or not? I’ve heard many of these generalizations about Christians too many times. I mean, really, are there folks out there that you encounter that are actually like you describe or are you just buying into the what others say about Christians? I think

  28. I definitely see where you are coming from. However, if I can come from a different angle on point #9. I am finding that the Christians who are dispensing with rules feel like they are better than everyone else because they have this new found ruleless relationship. So, I don’t think the rules are necessarily the issue because different people express their arrogance in different ways.

    At the same time, number 10 is dead on. But it is not just Christians. I think that is a result of Christians being impacted by society. Most people in general are satisfied with mediocrity. Of course, I guess that is why it is mediocrity. If every one were excelling, excellence would be the new mediocrity.

  29. @Kirt:

    Exhibiting the behavior isn’t relevant outside the context of a specific worldview. To say other people do the same thing is not a complete comparison. If my non-Christian friends are bitter, angry or worried, or settle for mediocrity, or don’t dream big well that may be perfectly inline with their worldview. And that is all well and good.

    But as Christians, we profess to believe to be called to more than those things. And if we act in contrast to what we believe, we are hypocrites. If a non-Christian acts perfectly in accordance with his belief system, then he is actually more authentic than we are.

    peace|dewde

  30. Debbie

    Wow…harsh! The Christians I know don’t fit on your list. We are a courageous group of messed up people who are reaching for maturity so we can reflect Christ to the world around us. We follow authentic leaders who inspire by example: adopting orphans, working to help the poor, sacrificing to give to the needy, trusting God through difficult circumstances. If you want to change lives, that’s the way to go.

  31. Juan Diego

    This is certainly a very challenging list. I think if you were going to add anything to it, it should be, “More likely to get made at title of this post than to examine its content.” I know that I have been guilty of making hasty judgments before.

  32. I didn’t know you were reformed.

    Very accurate assessment of the depravity of Christians. Too often I see these realities in my heart.

    I’m not sure the conclusion is true though. Are you suggesting that the primary reason people don’t come to Christ is because of our hypocrisy as Christians? Jesus said that the primary reason people don’t come to Him is because they love their sin (John 3)

  33. Tony, I don’t know you or what you do, I found this link through another website. I agree with your portrait of weak selfish childlike believers who warm the seats of many of our churches on Sunday but YOU or I might be the problem. As a pastor you have to look at these people as individuals entrusted to you by God whom we have the responsibility to equip for the work of ministry.

    I might write 10 reasons I don’t like my kids. And list how they are selfish and disobedient and do not listen to instruction and so on. It is my responsibility as a father to love them work with they and train them in all of these areas.

    As Pastors we need to be pouring into the lives of our congregations. So often we are so concerned with what we are “running” we pour ourselves completely into reaching the lost at the expense of our own people. How many of us spend the majority of our time preaching to the minority in the pews and when our regulars or assumed Christians do not fall in line we get mad at them. Who is firing up their hearts for Christ? Trying to fire up someone to reach the lost when their hearts have grown cold is tough. This is our responsibility.

    If I neglect my son and spend the majority of my time going around the neighborhood and playing catch and shooting hoops with other kids trying to get them to see how cool I am and My own son ends up a brat….. and I say I don’t like him….THAT”S MY FAULT!

  34. Tony Morgan

    brett, i’m not. but i’m still guilty of this when it comes to my theology or ministry strategy.

    tony

  35. Erick

    Ironically, I was reading the Bible this morning and found a section of Scripture in the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus made a list of the 10 reasons He didn’t like His disciples. It was very insightful, and it certainly gives us a clear Biblical understanding of why on earth a leader in a church would ever make a blog listing why he didn’t like Christians. Go ahead and add “laying on sarcasm extra thick” to your list, because here’s one Christian (that you don’t like) doing exactly that.

  36. Josh Smith

    Jesus loved Christians so much he died for them. He also said you will know Christians by their love for each other. So I ask you, what the hell is your problem?

  37. Have to agree with Kirt here Tony… this list sounds a lot like the typical ways the flesh finds it’s way into relationships – Christian or not. Hopefully, followers of Jesus Christ are daily being conformed into the image of Jesus Chist as the Holy Spirit makes changes from the inside out. Howver, I’m not convinced that any of us are going to crack the code of all of these all the time.

    Frankly, I’m wondering why this post was necessary – it was neither helpful nor insighful. What would be the purpose of adding to a list of frustrations with the common carnality we face in ourselves and others (Christian and non-Christian alike)?

    That being said, I am a frequent reader of your blog and LOVE IT! Thanks!

  38. Michael Nelson

    My reliance isn’t in material possessions.
    my relationship with my wife doesn’t rely on what I have in the physical.
    My relationship with God does not rely on what He can give me now, it is what He has already done.
    My life is not presupposed on what I can do, but what He already did.
    My life is based on my relationship with God, and only knowing Him will on know how to live my life.
    Many Christians may claim the “title,” but you are also walk in the area where you cannot claim who God is, since you have not been in His presence. Until I see you walk in the shoes perfectly in God’s will, you cannot even assume the authority of discerning the relationship we should have with our Lord.
    Looking from the other side of the fence does not make you a critic on Christianity. As I have walked on your side of the fence, I can say I have walked in your shoes. Don’t urinate on my shoes until you can comfortably walk in mine.

  39. Tony Morgan

    hard to believe the same post can illicit two distinctly opposite reactions…and yet it isn’t.

    tony

  40. Shain Brady

    Wow this post has fired some people up!! Yes I’ve sinned from this list as well. Not all at once, but from time to time throughout my life. But I didn’t take offense to this post but rather was inspired…I love Jesus.

    – Inspired not to fall into these traps that you listed above, but to be consistent with my faith in Jesus Christ
    – Inspired to have compassion, love, and forgiveness consistently
    – Inspired to wake up every single morning and look at this list and pray “I’m not going to worry, I’m not going to be fake, I’m not going to settle for mediocrity…”
    – Inspired to ACT for Jesus consistently

    I personally don’t do enough to act, to act on a consistent basis. And if my actions have or has caused people in the past to not accept Christ because I did something from the list to make them think that is what Christianity is…and they don’t approve…dang… thanks Tony for this post, your words are encouraging. The words don’t knock me down, but cause me to re-think my actions. Re-think my focus on Jesus it’s not about me anyway.

  41. Wow! My first reaction was: how cynical! The point on the list that stands out is the one about Christians who ask God to do things but don’t step out in faith and obedience. What? The thing that is so prevalent in the church in America is a tendency to first go and try to do things ourselves. It is a weakness we have that we don’t pray first, we don’t ask God first for His wisdom on the subject and we don’t wait on Him – we act. And we mess it up.

    But notice I say “we.” Morgan failed to say “we” remembering that he is including himself. He talked like an outsider, hating “those people.” I was absolutely astounded. That does not sound like the love of Christ, the love of the brethren, but someone who is backslidden – someone whose love has waxed cold.

    I would be afraid to write like that – words that could come back on me someday – words that he is accountable for. No, I don’t understand, especially if he is a pastor. Number 11 for the list – Christians whose don’t act like love at all!

  42. Scott

    I agree with some of the situations you’ve listed, but I don’t like the way you’ve written it — as opposed to — I don’t like you because you’ve written it. While your post raises great points, and issues that definitely need to be addressed, I don’t think we (humankind) do ourselves any favours (Canadian spelling) when we assign a value to people based on their actions.

    Absolutely there are inappropriate actions that should not be accepted, and should have consequences attached to them, but if I allow myself the mistaken luxury of forming a negative opinion of the person, instead of the action, then I am in a dangerous position myself.

    Thanks for the thought provoking post.

  43. Michael Nelson

    My intent on this is for most people to examine their OWN hearts (2 Cor 13:5) before critiquing others.
    and many Christians, as well as non believers, don’t do it.
    How many Christians confess their faults to one another (1 John 5:16)? How many member are willing suffer as other members suffer?
    The other critique I have on some Christians is the lackluster effort they have on toward the prize we may receive when we run the race. God would rather see people crawl to the Cross than not make the effort at all.
    I guess the final question is what are those who are “better” doing to help those who are struggling to the Cross? Are you just watching the show or being part to improve the other members?

  44. Tiffany

    I can tell you that I had 17 years of being around a lot of Christians, and I couldn’t stand them. Then I met one amazing person whose life was completely and totally centered around a relationship with Jesus, and she cared about my salvation. God used her to open my eyes to the fact that I needed a relationship with Him, and I’ll never forget that.

    Thankfully God saved me, but my family continues to reject God because of their negative view of Christians and the church. I pray every day that I’m not the person that becomes an obstacle to someone coming to Jesus. Thanks Tony for this post, and for reminding us all of how others may see us – it was a serious gut-check for me.

  45. OK, I wanted to trash my last comment and moderate it. I realize that Tony Morgan said at the end of his list, “I have sinned in all of these areas.” So, he is holding himself up to the same standards – sorry, I overreacted on that! Nevertheless, I still wouldn’t write a list like that! And I wouldn’t say that it’s God’s standard, and we’re sinning against it – that’s a distortion. God isn’t telling us we’re not acting enough and praying and believing too much – !!!

  46. Not sure that I’m following you on no.9, Tony. Isn’t that the point, to be Christ-like, to be different? If we are Christian, then shouldn’t we seem different, talk differently, think differently than the world around us? Aren’t the ways of Christ completely opposite from the ways of the world? I’m not talking about being weird, or legalistic here. But we should certainly be different. And yes, there are rules to follow and their is a standard of holiness to be kept. It’s a sad commentary on the modern church when we look no different from the community in which we serve. Our churches should produce life-change, and that should look different, and yes, hopefully be better.

  47. AKS

    I find this post horrible and offensive. While most of these statements are true about the way that most American Christians live – you are doing something even worse than their actions, you’re “not liking” them because they are imperfect. God loves us despite our imperfections, often because of them. God’s message is, above all, about love – and by listing reasons you don’t like other Christians, and therefore implying that you are a better Christian then them, goes against God’s fundamental message that we should love everyone despite their mistakes. It breaks my heart that you attempt to claim superior Christianity — Christianity is about love, not disliking other Christians because they are imperfect.

  48. Tony, would you mind if I used this in a teaching message? I want to be above reproach when quoting.

    To the comment above about Jesus not writing this about his disciples… true…. but he did have his fair shares of verbal sparring with the ‘spiritual leaders’ of the day.

  49. Don’t like the Christians you’re hanging out with, Tony? Maybe you’d better talk to their pastor and see if he can help them out!

    Oh, that would be you, wouldn’t it? Get cracking, brother. Might try some honey along with the vinegar for motivation, too.

  50. Pam

    I think your post is great and it inspired me…it really is amazing how the same post can illicit 2 such different reactions. I’ve seen the same thing happen with sermons. Some people are able to be confronted by their sin and learn from it and some people just can’t do it… Good stuff, Tony!

  51. Recently, I blogged about a sermon our pastor did at Church. The sermon began with a ‘man on the street’ video asking for word associations with the words Christian, and Jesus. Overwhelmingly, the people on the video (and I can’t be sure if they provided an accurate cross section, but in my travels, I certainly have experienced this) said things about Christians like ‘Evil’, ‘Confused’, ‘Bad People’, ‘Racist’. Yet, when the word Jesus was said, they said things like ‘God’, ‘Good’, Love’ or ‘Teacher’.

    Many who call themselves Christians have lost sight of what Christ; the Church, and ultimately our Salvation and the Great Commission are all about. Instead, we look upon the church as though it were some sort of exclusive club; each denomination has its’ own set of ‘rules’ that govern all sorts of things like when we stand, sit, whether or not we raise our hands in worship and even the clothes that we wear.

    We often look down upon those with tattoos, or piercings–and the worst crime of all is that we’re asked often to only associate with Christians.

    THAT is the greatest Christian Sin–we’re so prideful that we think ourselves above the rest.

  52. Here is my list of why I don’t like Christians who don’t like Christians
    1. Too many people think they are doing it the right way and everyone else is doing it the wrong way. (pride issues)
    2. We are supposed to love everyone (even Christians)
    3. It’s not necessary to go off on God’s children
    4. It’s a waste of time to make a list of all the reasons we don’t like other people (exactly what I am doing now, so you get the point)
    5. Why would someone want to be a Christ follower by hearing how someone else is doing it wrong?
    6. Putting people down in the name of Christ is wrong
    7. Why not name it 10 things I don’t like about how I used to be?
    8. Anytime we put someone down, we are puffing ourself up and taking glory away from God who deserves it. (it’s like the pharisees saying “I am glad I am not like that”
    9. Some things are better left unsaid
    10. It doesn’t advance the gospel message

    I get the point of your post. Of course there are people who give Christ a bad name. The disclaimer about how you struggled with these or how you have been a barrier is worth noting, but I am sure there are people who have given NewSpring a bad name, so maybe you could follow up this post with 10 reasons why I don’t like most NewSpringers?

  53. Carrie

    Yikes Tony! It looks like some people don’t like what you posted :) For the record, I understand your intent. It was for us to look inside ourselves and see were we’ve sinned in these areas. In is it interesting the same people who are telling you to love your brothers and sisters in Christ are so quick to hate on you for writing this post? Hmmm. Thanks for the post, it motivates me to be more like Christ to a dying world.

  54. Belle

    Funny, but I think you should have entitled this piece “10 Reasons I don’t Like Most PEOPLE”. There are plenty of nonChristians who meet these same descriptions….. In fact, you could have just called it “Ten Reasons I don’t like Most Plumbers” and probably come up with the same list. Does it just make you feel better to use the word “Christians”?

  55. Love this post. In fact, the thing I love most about it is the way people have taken your opinion so personally. I agree with you on every point though. The Bible never says that we have to like everybody, and in fact, Jesus has some pretty rough stuff to say about the Pharisees (let’s not forget they were the religious leaders of the day and very highly respected at the time). I love this post and your blog. It’s always insightful and especially entertaining today!

  56. Unfortunately your post is so true! A Christian life should be an introspective life and by looking squarely into the mirror, perhaps we can improve a little at a time.

  57. Xandyr78

    It’s interesting to see how people react to things…Tony, while I agree with the facts of a lot of this post, I don’t necessarily agree with the spirit in which it was delivered. Let me just say that, up front.

    However, what I find more interesting are the sheer number of people who lambaste you, and spout judgment and venom AT you in regard to your own perceived judgment and venom toward other Christians.

    You want to attack him because you think his post is uncalled-for, unChristlike, or too negative? Great. Prove his point…and do so with a hypocritical flair that makes his own semi-bitter-sounding post seem almost benign.

    Do yourselves a favor, and check yourself before you post. If you want to blast someone for not showing “love,” make sure that your own post DOES. If you want to point out someone’s cynical, bitter, or “negative” thoughts, be sure that your own presentation isn’t equally cynical, bitter, and negative.

    I read the post, and while I thought it might’ve been a bit harsh, I also realize that there’s a great deal of truth to it. Could it be applied to the world as a whole? Probably…but the world as a whole doesn’t hold itself to the same standards as Christendom…so the comparison wouldn’t be nearly as jarring.

    Anyway, Tony…if nothing else…cheers for making people think, even if they lynch you for it.

  58. Listen guys, Do something about your faith. Tony is stepping on some toes. That’s good. It will make us dance! Don’t worry about whether Tony is right or wrong. We must concern ourselves with become Christ-followers that are worthy of following. My prayer is that others see Christ in us, and that they don’t see the people on this list.

    Tony, thanks for writing this. It needed to be said. And Jamie Steele may be onto something….

  59. Travis Newton

    I don’t understand why the culture at NewSpring is so anti-Christian and why traditional church is labeled as “boring.” I find traditional church intellectually stimulating. I have many friends who believe everything you guys say in 100% correct. I think you should be more tolerate of Christians who do not share your same approach to worshiping Christ.

  60. I realize now in reading this post again that it’s not really about Christians, I mean, not the Christians that I am familiar with. Not the people who struggle with their walk with the Lord, and constantly ask God to show them how they might be falling short, and listen to their consciences, and are sensitive to issues of right and wrong.

    It’s about modern day pharisees. And it is so painful to hear Tony Morgan talk about most Christians through the prism of his experience with these pharisees, as if he no longer sees anything else. He doesn’t see the beautiful people that are heroes in the kingdom of God, who make up most Christians.

    Because it’s the majority you see when you are surrounded by heroes of faith – when you read about the heroes who risk their lives for Jesus in countries where they are persecuted. When you have friends such as some of the ones in my life who struggle against their infirmities to hold a weekly bible study, and always care about living by God’s standards.

    Or a friend who is head of a ministry to Haiti, bringing food and hope to people who eat dirt they are so poor.

    Pastor Morgan seems to be surrounded by the wrong kind of Christians. And he seems to be absolutely burned out on people. He really ought to prayerfully consider getting out of ministry and getting recharged spiritually. He needs fresh vision. I challenge this view of Christians. Genuine Christians are much more beautiful than this.

  61. erik

    Tony,
    Perhaps one of the reasons this post generated division has to do with using sweeping generalizations about the “others” in your list.

    When you title a post “10 Reasons I don’t like Most Chrsitians”, and then proceed to use the “They” in your points, then you are setting yourself up as the judge. Even without meaning to, you have pointed the finger at all.

    Your followup paragraphs do little to aid the wounds you open.

    “In the censures of the church, it is more suitable to the spirit of Christ to incline to the milder part, and not to kill a fly on the forehead with a mallet, nor shut men out of heaven for a trifle. The very snuffers (wick trimmers) of the tabernacle were made of pure gold, to show the purity of those censures whereby the light of the church is kept bright. The power that is given to the church is given for edification, not destruction. How careful was Paul that the incestuous Corinthian (2 Cor. 2:7), if he repented, should not be swallowed up with too much grief.” Richard Sibbes – The Bruised Reed.

  62. Totally down with the post save one thing. Your observations are right on, but I think you should have said “we” instead of “they.” One thing that drives me nuts about us is that we sub-divide over everything, spouting these eliticisms to make sure the listener knows that we are coming from the purest perspective.

    Christians can change the Church, only if we stop using the word “them.” There is no “them”

    In the words of the great theologian Peter Gabriel:

    “The further on I go, oh the less I know
    I can find only us breathing
    Only us sleeping
    Only us dreaming
    Only us”

  63. William Eastwood aka Dread

    Well I like Christians…

    A lot…

    1. They love Christ and that is enough reason right there…
    2. Anywhere you go you already have a family that receives you. People that you already know without ever meeting.
    3. They care about almost everything… and get involved.
    4. They do millions of things that you never notice just because they love one another…
    5. They are almost always less legalistic than the organizations they join…
    6. They forgive everyone and endure the accusation that they condemn everyone… really only a minority are that way
    7. They know some people cannot produce the highest excellence so they look at the heart that offers …
    8. They give cranky bloggers like Tony Morgan a break when they rant about everything in sight…they figure someone must of said something really mean to him about his music or whatever…
    9. They are really generous…
    10. They allow cranky bloggers like me to be their pastor… I like that best of all….

    Anyway… hey Tony we are sorry you had a bad day…come over to phoenix preacher and let’s rant together…

    Dread

  64. Tony,

    I have to agree, and disagree, with you on several of your points. I say this knowing that I could come up with my own top 10 list to not like most Christians, 10 times over…

    I'm trying to see where you are coming from…and am hoping that the conversation, wherever it happens, will ultimately be redemptive.

  65. Wow! Chalk this up as being closest to your number 4 on the list. I’m jealous. I’ve blogged for about a year (www.blogbyfattom.com) and in that year I’ve gotten about 2 comments that weren’t from family. 94 comments from one post???? Again, Wow! Somehow I think God is doing me a favor by keeping me small-time as although I’m morbidly obese, I still don’t think I am thick skinned enough to handle some of this criticism you get for writing what I think is a pretty honest post.

  66. rlo

    Extremely original. I understand you have good reason to think that but you cant pin those stereotypes on all Christians. And also alot of those are common among Christians only because they are common among humans.

  67. JohnD

    This is strange. I have known many christians, and most don’t even come close to your list. But, I will give it to you that most people believe this about them. That’s not quite the same thing though, is it (at least it shouldn’t be considered that way).

    In fact, I have met many that claim they are not christian that exhibit some of the claims, so perhaps we aren’t talking about “christians” per se, but rather just about people in general.

    I believe that there is a good percentage of many folks who exhibit many of the uptight and extreme characteristics outline throughout most of any type of group. This is proven in many portrayals from many groups.

    So, perhaps the argument against christians is just easier because there is an assumption that those people fit the stereotype without examining the truth – an easy target. Why are they an easy target? Because if they challenge you on your accusation, then you simply claim they are being hostile and hypocrites. Pretty much a no win situation. By design? Perhaps.

  68. Anna

    how is any of this true? and who are you to judge any person? God is the only person who has to right to judge and one day he will judge everyone and he will ask you about these 10 reasons why you hate his people what will your answer be then?

  69. Mike

    The MOST interesting part about this list is…..that almost ALL of them except for the “preference” one(which could apply if Jesus were replaced with whatever else gives someone a sense of somethingness) DOES apply to people in general and not only Christians. Christians are humans. Humans regardless of religion have practiced the listed ten throughout the ages. My biggest problems with Christians is that they use their faith to cover up the “human” truth about themselves to themselves. Since they’re “saved”, they no longer need to survey their internal landscape of humanity to see that indeed, they are just like everyone else. Only they use God as perfume to cover up the brown roses in their lives, and usually, everyone but they can see it.

  70. Rev. David French

    I do not know what so called Christians you are examining that gives you your 10 reasons. I can find no truth in any of your points other than it is made up by someone who wants to vent and label Christians in a false manner. True there are some who maybe call themselves as Christians are similar to your list but not true Christians. True Christians are the most caring and loving people in the world. After all to be a Christian means to be Christlike. I suppose you don’t like Christ either!

  71. Arez Seidman

    Are you talking about christians or modern popular culture loving americans?: they’re fake, they like mediocrity, they’re jealous…
    Go easy on your own people my friend. I’m a jew and I have had it with self hating jews. What now we are going to have self hating christians too?

    oy vey!

  72. Mike

    i hate that most of my relatives are christians. its a shame because some have so many good qualities that i would enjoy but they cant keep their jesus to themselves. i’ve learned tolerance for many things in life. my tolerence for christians has diminished to nearly none.

  73. I enjoyed reading this post. I wrote an article, which I never posted, titled, “What I hate about being a Christian,” and it pretty much covered many of the areas you listed. Being in an online ministry myself I am subject to all types of Christian opinions and many times I just don’t get it. Why are we so fearful? Why is the devil behind everything we don’t understand? Why do we accept so much tradition as truth? As much I love God and am a disciple of Jesus Christ, sometimes I hate wearing that title “Christian” because truly, we have a lot of issues and that’s okay, accept when we think we are more holy and righteous than others. I heard a pastor once say, “Stop judging those who sin differently than you do.” I recently posted on my facebook, “Can I be a disciple of Christ without being a Christian and 90% of the answers were no. I know many Christians who are loving and truly reflect the love of God, but it really scares me just how narrow-minded and closed off we can be all in the name of Jesus, which doesn’t characterize the love of Christ much of the time.

  74. Michael

    I think its funny. I call myself a Christian and I don’t like Christians. I agree with the points you make and they are with sound reasoning but you are speaking to the people in the cave. They only know what they have been taught by their pastors and from their culture. We all have a narrow view of the big picture and when we decide to work together in Love and Peace then it will all make sense. Do not judge lest you be judged. It reminds of when a man accused another man of the same crime he committed and there was no way he would have known unless he had committed the same crime. I like the post!!! I like how most people just bash it before they understand it. You should do a piece on Muslims, Jews, Catholics, and Mormons. Excellent post! If there was a hammer for this nail, you would have hit it.

  75. Other religion

    Hi, I just want to say every religion is infested with people like that. It’s like religion is the best place to hide for a lot of hypocrites. I am not Christian nor was I raised as one, but I think it is amusing how people of all religions act alike in terms of hypocrisy. One could say it is best not to judge the scripture being followed by its adherents. Then again if people are unable to correctly follow the religious teachings, then doesn’t that say something about the religious teachings themselves?

  76. nedmorlef

    Christians are the sickest of the sick,meanest of the mean,evilest of the evil. What separates us is that we recognize that and is why we are in the hospital[church]. We understand much was given and much is expected. You the lost are the opposite. You don’t see you are evil,sick and mean. You are blind and don’t understand. You can’t see we are seeking healing help. You just see the p uss oozing from our sores.

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